Honduras’ Congress: 111-14 against reinstating Zelaya

Here is the resolution from the Congress of Honduras, and the reaction from president Roberto Micheletti, whose appointment has now been confirmed. There was first a “debate”, in which mainly supporters of the reinstatement made their points, notably Cesar Ham. After that the voting followed, but a few persons in, they started making statements about their reason for voting as they did, and those statements also grew very long. However, it was interesting to hear the various points of views about Zelaya. A number of persons told about how they had supported Zelaya, but had abandoned him due to his plans for remaining in power. They denounced how the presidency changed, how a small group tried to hold on to power, how others had good intentions but were betrayed, and that in effect a coup was planned. It was truly an historical session, and I hope it is recorded and put online so that all Hondurans can listen to it and learn from it. – Below are comments written while watching the debate unfolding.

At this very moment (15:00 Honduran time) the Congress in Honduras is debating the reinstatement of Zelaya, according to the Guaymuras agreement signed several weeks ago. A motion has been introduced to ratify the decision to depose Zelaya in June, and to replace him with Roberto Micheletti. The motion had a great number of sponsors, but I could not count if it was over 50% of the members (there are 128 members).

Congress member Cesar Ham, who is pro-Zelaya, leader of the leftist party UD who got a low single-digit percentage of votes in the election last Sunday, has been talking for a while now, saying that Honduras is a dictatorship. But when he said that a large number of people had been killed (I missed the exact number) he got booed. He says that he wants an “assemblea constituyente”, i.e., a constituting constitutional assembly, in other words, to throw out the constitution of the Republic of Honduras. Just as a comparison, if a U.S.  congressperson had said that, they would have violated their oath of office.

The head of the PINU group in congress is now speaking. He started by pointing out that international media should take notice that Honduras is a democracy, and that everyone is allowed to speak their point of view (with obvious reference to Cesar Ham’s discourse).

A lawyer is talking now. Apparently not a good one, because he cannot see the difference between prosecuting and condemning a citizen criminally, and removing an elected official from office based on prima facie evidence for violations of the constitution. He must not understand the distinction between immediately dismissing a police from his work based on e.g. a video of him beating an innocent person, and that police later being prosecuted for that crime. Manuel Zelaya has not been convicted (yet), he has only been removed from office in order to prevent further crimes against the form of government, based on Zelaya’s publicly stated intentions.

After 4 hours the voting is still on-going, since many of the congressmen are making long statements about the reasons for their vote. Several are very passionate, and that on both sides of the issue; both those who consider that Zelaya was planning a coup d’état (and they are numerous), and those who consider that it was a coup to depose him. I haven’t counted, but the initial tendency was clearly for accepting the motion to approve the decision taken in June to replace Zelaya with Micheletti.

At 21:35 they finished voting, the result being 111 for the motion, 14 against. This means that Congress decided NOT to reinstate Zelaya.

Media: SvD, DN (apparently published before the final vote count was finished).

4 thoughts on “Honduras’ Congress: 111-14 against reinstating Zelaya”

  1. Editorial Diario Tiempo, Honduras
    3/12/2009

    En el desarrollo de los acontecimientos en la cámara legislativa del día de ayer, el “día histórico”, parecía haberse regresado –como en la Máquina del Tiempo, de H. G. Wells— a la Nueva Inglaterra, Estados Unidos, del siglo XVII, y el terrible juzgamiento inquisitorial de Las Brujas de Salem, descrito en forma magistral por el dramaturgo Arthur Miller.

    Todos los elementos de fanatismo, de maldad, de represión, de oscurantismo político, de fementido amor por la ley y la justicia, de intolerancia ideológica y religiosa, de desvergüenza, indignidad y deshonor, de entrega a la mentira y a la concupiscencia política, se hicieron presentes y dominaron la escena parlamentaria, de espalda a los procedimientos legales para reafirmar el ahorcamiento de la Constitución, de la democracia y del Estado de Derecho consumado el 28 de junio.

    Y toda esta barbaridad se comete en nombre del pueblo hondureño, de la libertad, la democracia y la majestad constitucional, con el objetivo, se dice, de servir a Honduras y lograr la integración y la unidad nacional en el nuevo gobierno, con absoluto respeto a los derechos humanos!

    Nadie con un mínimo de cordura puede siquiera ignorar, que no disculpar, ese comportamiento de la “clase” política de nuestro país, vívidamente representada ayer por la mayoría aplastante en el congreso nacional. Es previsible, entonces, un retroceso al Medioevo político, con un congreso fabricado a la perfección para el absolutismo gubernamental y como tribunal del Santo Oficio.

    Para la mayoría del pueblo hondureño, que no tiene idea de lo que fue la Inquisición en la época medieval, puede ahora tener una idea aproximada por la forma en que se desarrolló la “histórica” sesión de ayer, martes 2 de diciembre, del congreso nacional para resolver sobre la restitución del Estado de Derecho en Honduras y devolver al titular constitucional del Poder Ejecutivo el mando presidencial usurpado.

    Para cumplir con su cometido, el congreso nacional adoptó las formalidades de un Tribunal de la Santa Inquisición o Santo Oficio con la preparación de un grotesco espectáculo legislativo para condenar –sin pruebas ni debido proceso— a la horca o a la hoguera al gobernante derrocado por el golpe de Estado militar del 28 de junio.

    Solamente así tendría este congreso nacional –frente a los pocos, pero honrados diputados opuestos—la excusa para reiterar el rompimiento de la Constitución, perpetrado por el Legislativo, la Corte Suprema de Justicia, el Ministerio Público y el Comisionado Nacional de los Derechos Humanos, en el seno de la conspiración de la élite política-empresarial y de las iglesias católica y protestante en comunión con el poder militar.

    La presentación de los “dictámenes” de la Corte Suprema de Justicia, del Comisionado Nacional de los Derechos Humanos y del Ministerio Público, plagados de falsedades jurídicas, de suposiciones improbables, de mentiras testimoniales y de cinismo político, lo mismo que de un “documental” propagandístico de manufactura nazi, es, con seguridad, el espectáculo político más burdo y perverso que se ha montado en el escenario hondureño. “Editorial del diario el tiempo Honduras 3 dic 2009.

  2. Editorial in Diario Tiempo, Honduras
    3/12/2009

    The developments in the legislative chamber yesterday, the “historic day”, seemed to have returned as in the Time Machine, HG Wells-to New England, USA, the seventeenth century, and the terrible inquisitorial trial of the witches of Salem, described in masterly fashion by the playwright Arthur Miller.

    All elements of fanaticism, of evil and repression of political obscurantism, of perfidious love of law and justice, ideological intolerance and religious, of shame, indignity and dishonor of surrender to lust lies and politics, were present and dominated the parliamentary scene, back to the legal procedures to reaffirm the hanging of the Constitution, democracy and the rule of law consummated on June 28.

    And all this barbarity committed on behalf of the Honduran people, freedom, democracy and the constitutional majesty, with the aim, they say, serve to Honduras and achieving national integration and unity in the new government, with absolute respect Human rights!

    Nobody with an ounce of sanity can even ignore, that does not excuse, the behavior of the “class” politics of our country, vividly represented yesterday by the overwhelming majority in congress. It is foreseeable, then a political setback to the Middle Ages, with a Congress made perfectly for the government absolutism and as a court of the Inquisition.

    For most of the Honduran people have no idea what was the Inquisition in medieval times, can now have a rough idea of how they developed the “historic” meeting yesterday, Tuesday, 2 December, Congress national rule on the return of the rule of law in Honduras and return to the constitutional head of the executive branch usurped the presidential inauguration.

    To fulfill its mission, the National Congress adopted the formalities of a Court of the Inquisition or Holy Office with the preparation of a legislation to condemn grotesque spectacle-without evidence or due process-to the gallows or the stake to the ruler was overthrown by military coup of June 28.
    Only then would this national congress, compared to the few, but members opposite-honored excuse to repeat the breach of the Constitution perpetrated by the Legislature, the Supreme Court, the Public Ministry and the National Commissioner for Human Rights within the conspiracy of the political-business elite and the Catholic and Protestant churches in communion with the military.

    The presentation of the “opinions” of the Supreme Court of Justice, the National Commissioner for Human Rights and the Public Ministry, riddled with falsehoods legal, implausible assumptions, lies and political cynicism testimonials, as well as a “documentary “Manufacturing Nazi propaganda, is surely the grossest political spectacle and perverse that is mounted on the stage of Honduras.

    “Editorial in El Tiempo Honduras December 3, 2009.

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